Discussion:
[basex-talk] Uppercase ß ?
C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
2017-06-29 22:24:36 UTC
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From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the
Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s
shall now have an uppercase form.

From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint
U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character.

Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed
to map U+00DF to U+1E9E?

I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF,
in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of
date? Sigh.)

best regards,

Michael Sperberg-McQueen
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Andy Bunce
2017-06-30 13:30:55 UTC
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Hi Michael,

I am no expert here but I read from my twitter sources [1]
that the stability_policy [2] is key here.

Regards
/Andy

https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/880720026491383809
http://unicode.org/policies/stability_policy.html#Case_Pair
Post by C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the
Rat fÃŒr deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s
shall now have an uppercase form.
From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint
U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character.
Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed
to map U+00DF to U+1E9E?
I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF,
in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of
date? Sigh.)
best regards,
Michael Sperberg-McQueen
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Christian Grün
2017-06-30 13:48:16 UTC
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Hi Michael,

Same rights for characters, same rights for same-gender relationships

Things are moving forward in Germany ;)

It was about time to see the upper-case Eszett (ẞ) emerge as official
alternative [1]. A few German type setters have been using the character
for some years (it was added to Unicode in 2008), but it will take some
time until we will have good-looking upper-case Eszetts in standard fonts
(even the lower-case Eszett often looks like a stranger in many
professional font sets, because it is exclusively used in German language).

Regarding the assymetric case conversion (the lower-case conversion of 'ẞ'
yields 'ß', while we currently get 'SS' when converting 'ß' to upper-case),
I guess that this will remain the standard, as SS is still a legal
alternative (at least at the moment). – Andy’s response, which I’ve just
seen, seems to confirm this assumption.

All the best,
Christian

[1] Bei Schreibung mit Großbuchstaben schreibt man SS. Daneben ist auch die
Verwendung des Großbuchstabens ẞ möglich. Beispiel: Straße – STRASSE –
STRAẞE. (http://www.rechtschreibrat.com/DOX/rfdr_Regeln_2017.pdf, §25 E3)



On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:24 AM, C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <
Post by C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
From Die Zeit, I learn that new orthographic rules issued by the
Rat fÃŒr deutsche Rechtschreibung specify that ß / esszett / sharp s
shall now have an uppercase form.
From the comments there, I learn further that codepoint
U+1E9E has already been assigned to this character.
Will the default collation used for upper-case be changed
to map U+00DF to U+1E9E?
I notice that lower-case already maps U+1E9E to U+00DF,
in the version 7.9 on my disk. (Am I already that far out of
date? Sigh.)
best regards,
Michael Sperberg-McQueen
--
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* C. M. Sperberg-McQueen, Black Mesa Technologies LLC
* http://www.blackmesatech.com
* http://cmsmcq.com/mib
* http://balisage.net
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